Now, there’s a whole other area of election interference that we were slower to identify. That’s the part that I actually think we got, and were on top of. You could see that in the indictments that Mueller just issued over the last week or so. They’ve clearly gone much further now, at this point, in terms of putting the whole story together. We, around the time of the election, had given this context to the FBI. Later we also identified that they had set up a fake account and fake pages under the banner of, connected to this thing, DCLeaks, in order to seed stolen information that they had gotten to journalists. When we saw similar activity through the campaign in 2016, that they were trying to phish people’s accounts in both the DNC and RNC, we notified some of the people over there as well, we thought were at risk. We identified this, actually, in the middle of 2015 and notified the FBI. They were trying to do more traditional methods of hacking: Phishing people’s accounts, just getting access to people’s accounts that way. But what we saw, before the election, was this Russian hacking group, part of Russian military intelligence, that I guess our government calls APT28. They obviously have much more context than this. Then we’ve tried to cooperate with the government and the different investigations that are going on. Well the evidence that we’ve seen is quite clear, that the Russians did try to interfere with the election. Tell me what you think about his idea that there is no evidence that the Russians used social media, and did different things during the election. You saw the Putin/Trump press conference, essentially. I’m gonna start off with the news of the day. This is our first interview in years, right? We’ve seen each other. Kara Swisher: Mark, thank you so much for talking to me. ![]() You can read a more condensed, lightly edited version here. ![]() Below is the full transcript of the conversation.
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